Forum Übersicht - Vermischtes » WARNUNG .. justcam4you - Alpha 900 zum Spottpreis?

Hallo,
bei dpreview hat einer diesen Shop entdeckt, der eine Alpha 900 für EUR 1.373,- inkl. Versand weltweit anbietet...
Allerdings habe ich keinen Hinweis gefunden, ob man diesem Laden vertrauen kann. Bei einer Suche habe ich lediglich zwei Einträge von Leuten gefunden, die sich wohl ein blaues Auge geholt haben .
Von einer Bestellung dort würde ich erst einmal abraten. Der Preis ist - im wahrsten Sinn des Wortes - zu gut, um wahr zu sein.
Ralph

ZITAT(zwincker @ 2009-09-22, 13:54) Hallo,
bei dpreview hat einer diesen Shop entdeckt, der eine Alpha 900 für EUR 1.373,- inkl. Versand weltweit anbietet...
Allerdings habe ich keinen Hinweis gefunden, ob man diesem Laden vertrauen kann. Bei einer Suche habe ich lediglich zwei Einträge von Leuten gefunden, die sich wohl ein blaues Auge geholt haben .
Von einer Bestellung dort würde ich erst einmal abraten. Der Preis ist - im wahrsten Sinn des Wortes - zu gut, um wahr zu sein.
Ralph[/quote]
Der Preis ist viel zu gut, um wahr zu sein. Das kann nicht stimmen, bitte nicht blenden lassen.

http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/in-england-...as-kann-man-tun
http://www.forumfotografia.net/index.php?topic=46503.0
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61972762
http://photographersnest.blogspot.com/2009...as-baratas.html

Stichworte: "ELECTRONICS 4 YOU", "JustCam4You"

Viele Grüße,

Matthias

Ich habe gerade einen Freund dort hin geschickt: Kein Laden, keine Firmenadresse.
Ich würde dort definitiv nicht bestellen.

QUOTE (matthiaspaul @ 2009-09-22, 13:13) http://www.gutefrage.net/frage/in-england-...as-kann-man-tun
http://www.forumfotografia.net/index.php?topic=46503.0
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=61972762
http://photographersnest.blogspot.com/2009...as-baratas.html

Stichworte: "ELECTRONICS 4 YOU", "JustCam4You"

Viele Grüße,

Matthias[/quote]
Hallo Matthias,
kannst Du bitte den Titel des Threads editieren und "WARNUNG" davor schreiben. Vielleicht lässt sich der eilige Leser sonst von dem Preis blenden.
Ralph

Leider scheint diese Seite (http://www.redelijkheid.com) nicht mehr online zu sein, im Google-Cache findet sich aber folgendes:

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:Bl4TB...=clnk&gl=de
ZITATActive Scammer Websites

JustCam4You

URL: http://justcam4you.com [mirror] / http://www.justcam4you.co.uk / http://www.justcam4you.net

Some of the old guys are back. Probably the same guys who were behind the Anepax and Wootechworld webshops (check the inactive scams below for details on those). This webshop (the. Com version) was ‘founded’ at the beginning of September 2009 (whois info [2]). Several buttons/images should give you some confidence especially the ultracheap SSL certificate they use (no GoDaddy this time, but Starfield which has problems of its own ). As usual the biggest scam giveaway is the payment options. UK and US citizens can use credit card, but the rest of the world is left with a bank transfer.

JustCam4You_PaymentError

Payment Details:

Please wire €3438.00 to our account:
Bank Barclays
Bank Address 247 Edgware Road
London, NW9 6LS
United Kingdom
Account Barclays
SWIFT/BIC BARCGB22
IBAN GB75 BARC 2029 3733 9306 29

Please allow 5 working days for the payment to reach our account.

Please send a notification of your payment by email to billing@justcam4you.com, advising us of the following:
Date of Payment, Your Bank Account Number, Order Number (s).

Another thing is the database they use. The Nikon D300 [mirror], and the Nikon 14-24mm [mirror] lens have the same item id’s (Nikon D300 = "items.php?id=993227″, Nikon 14-24mm = "items.php?id=1090485″ as the old Anepax and Wootech scams [1, 2].

B.t.w., they do send confirmation e-mails (full headers below);

X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7dXM9MDtsPTA7YT0xO0Q9MTtTQ0w9MA==
X-Message-Status: n:0
X-SID-PRA: JustCam4You <billing@justcam4you.com>
X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jGpSs4nWljfVWRMxLKLB+Nhb5IrG8eBYL2XGPby+N2pDMRSTzqUk5+NtAs1fHMD7HtxMUDF
tTQYw49Jak2EDfAt
Received: from smtp107.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.52.176]) by col0-mc4-f42.Col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVc (6.0.3790.3959);
Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:36:08 -0700
Received: (qmail 62876 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2009 09:36:08 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO http://www.justcam4you.com) (billing@91.213.126.70 with login)
by smtp107.biz.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Sep 2009 09:36:07 -0000
X-Yahoo-SMTP: B.Zw.JSswBDs2nZitX90tw1.1u1rsZo5gnV757sva3U1YA–
X-YMail-OSG: eyg5G68VM1mhByKcEAwJPOAYAtt435tYnP_Gsui9IkUH5makG_ZYXiek2X_f1vnR6yoAIeT2c8LjE4Ci
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X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:34:19 +0200
Return-Path: billing@justcam4you.com
To: ************
From: JustCam4You <billing@justcam4you.com>
Subject: Order #71622243
Message-ID: <9be3935d69e404f70dc86c818103e9b1@www.justcam4you.com>;
X-Priority: 3
X-Mailer: PHPMailer (phpmailer.sourceforge.net) [version 2.0.0 rc3]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="b1_9be3935d69e404f70dc86c818103e9b1″
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2009 09:36:08.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[4ADF9A60:01CA32C3]

Why would a UK based shop use an originating IP from Costa Rica?

Stay away from this webshop if you want to keep your money. JustScams4You should be a better name….

OkayStore

URL: http://www.okaystore.com

Another China-based webshop. Founded in Juli 2009 according to the whois information.
Pricing is inconsistent. DSLR with (kit) lenses are cheaper than bodies only in some cases. They even sell products that don’t exist [2].

The payment FAQ is sketchy to say the least.

7gocool

URL: http://www.7gocool.com

A Nikon D700 for €1300 (including Customs?… whatever that may mean) is a give-a-way that things are fishy. And the fact that they are located in China.

The whois info contains garbage and the regular hotmail addresses, and the domain was registered on June 8th 2009.
BigPro shop / ProTech Store / TechSohos

URL: http://www.bigproshop.com, http://www.protechstore.com and http://www.techsohos.com

Only Credit Card payment (which normally is a pro), but no SSL to protect your credit card information during transit.

Prices are too good to be true, and the websites are hosted on servers which host a gazzilion other websites. For shops who operate for ages (according to the info on their website) you should expect something more permanent / dedicated.

From the Whois info on protechshop.com:

Name Server: LINUX.CASHMONEYBROTHERS.BE
Name Server: LINUXSEC.CASHMONEYBROTHERS.BE
Now that’s really professional

The two websites run both a lame Joomla theme and are basically the same. I guess these scammer websites can be bought on the darker parts of the Internet. These are are most likely to use your credit card information for other means, since the ‘regular’ scam sites just want your cash.

More information on the ProTechStore and Techsohos scam.

PE Export / Export Panama / Hexport

URL: http://www.pe-export.com [mirror] ( http://www.hexport.com [mirror])
Nick is back. ‘Nick Naylor’ was also the guy behind Panama Export (which seems offline). According to the whois, this domain is his new playground. Prices are low (as usual), and the layout etc. are exactly the same as his former website panama-export (contact page).When I write this (May 27, 2009), the website seems to be closed (or they’re filtering on my IP range again). They use a script to transfer me to Panama-Export.com (which forwards to an ads-page or something). My guess is that the website will be operational soon (and offline soon afterward).

UPDATE: Finally found the hexport.com screenshots I needed (ain’t the Internet a wonderfull thing). Anyway, what I already suspected is that hexport.com and pe-export.com are identical. Only the name is different.

The hexport.com screenshots: index (with video playing), products, Contact Us, FAQ, Guarantee, Testimonials The pe-export.com movie (Seems that ‘Nick’ is really going pro with the ads), As seen in…

Wootech Worldwide

URL: http://www.wootechworld.com / http://www.wootech-world.com [mirror]
A duplicate form the ‘older’ scam websites like e-holater etc. Prices are still too good to be true. Even the Nikon 14-24 lens is back with a new default product id (1090485). Just compare the Anepax and Wootech screenshots for the Nikon 14-24 lens.

According to the whois database information they ‘exist’ since May 5th, 2009. I have found the cheap GoDaddy SSL certificate (details).It seems that the website (hosted @ 194.165.4.81) won’t resolve @ my local ISP’s DNS server. I can access the website using TOR. I guess they’re blocking IP ranges now . They’re gonna miss out on lot’s of XS4ALL customers this way .

I ‘purchased’ a Nikon D300 at the website for a lousy €790. Just to get my hand on some additional screenshots and the banking information on these scammers.

Note that even though they have an SSL certificate, they don’t use it (yet). The entire account registration process and ordering is done without the use of SSL.

Good Electronics Shop

URL: http://www.goodelectronicsshop.com (mirror)
Chinese and prices too good to be true. Also, no Credit Card payments possible. Only Western Unions and Bank Transfers (contradicting payment info 1, 2). And we all know what happens with those….. Besides, what’s the difference between these [1, 2] items?No https connections during the (spam enabling bogus) registration and ordering process, and the domain name was registered on April 6, 2009.
digsaleltd@yahoo.com, digsaleltd@gmail.com, digsaleltd@hotmail.com

Any sales offerings with these e-mail addresses can be considered fraudulous.

Camera Giants Inc.

URL: http://www.cameragiantsinc.com (mirror)
Prices are too good to be true. Domain was registered 18-jan-2009, and the SSL certificate is one of the cheapest available from Comodo. No address available, only a PO Box in Emeryville.

Sonic Cameras

URL: http://soniccameras.com (mirror)
Shady

My Affordable Camera

URL: http://myaffordablecamera.com (mirror)
Resides in Russia, ultra low prices, and accepts Western Union only -> Scammer (in my opinion).

If you find other websites with the same characteristics, please report them in the comments, and I’ll add them to the list. Read more…
Categories: Annoying, Personal, Photography, Scam, Security Tags: 7gocool, Adsense, aliha, alihashop, alphaconsole, anepax, anepax world, BigPro shop, camera giants, camera giants inc, cameragiants, cendice, digsaleltd, doublewin-trade, e-holater, Entac, entac limited, entac unlimited, Entacdirect, evadis, Export Panama, fraud, gocamerashop, Good Electronics Shop, Google, hexport, hexport.com, holater, igooshop, in-shopper, JustCam4You, lomise, mobice, Nick Naylor, okaystore, onich, onichtech, panama-export, pe-export, ProTech Store, review, reviews, Scam, scammers, Scams, ssl, syndeck, techsohos, tonex, Wootech, Wootech Worldwide, xenos, xenosworld[/quote]

Viele Grüße,

Matthias

PS. Thread in Verschiedenes verschoben, so daß er im Portal gelistet wird und von Suchmaschinen erfaßt wird.

Noch ein Hinweis zu dem "Shop":
Scamming ad on DPReview - just-cam4you.com (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...thread=33085264)

[EDIT: Link repariert durch Moderator.]

Siehe auch:

http://www.mi-fo.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26099

Viele Grüße,

Matthias