Forum Übersicht - Übersicht Arca-Swiss-kompatibler Platten & Klemmen

Andreas F.X. Siegert und Marco Frissen haben eine Übersicht für Platten und Klemmungen nach dem Arca-Swiss-Standard zusammengestellt, die Auskunft über die Kompatibilität der Produkte von inzwischen mehr als einem Dutzend verschiedener Hersteller gibt:

Acratech, Arca Swiss, Benro/Induro, Burzynski/Graf, Feisol, FLM, Foba, Giottos, Graf, Hama (Pro Plate), Kirk, Markins, Novoflex, PhotoClam, Pro Media Gear, RRS, Wimberley

http://www.afximages.com/stuff/arca-plates-xref.html

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Matthias

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ZITATArca Swiss style plates and clamp cross reference (last updated 2013-05-30)

All claim to be Arca Swiss compatible, but looking at them in detail, one can see that this is not always true.

The dovetail plates have slight width, height and slant variations that can lead to incompatible combinations.

In addition, some vendors have lever clamps that work only over a smaller width/height range then their knob based clamps.
This table covers only knob based clamps unless otherwise noted.

General dovetail shapes are used by other vendors as well, but with measures pronouncedly more different so that I do not want to put them in the table as they are not even meant to be Arca compatible.

If you have any first hand experience as to which clamps work with which plates, please E-Mail me at afx@afximages.com so that I can update the table.

And if you are an AfterShot user, you might want to check my latest project, The AfterShot Survival Guide at http://aftershotsurvivalguide.com/.


Clamps:

Acratech
Arca Swiss
Benro/Induro
Burzynski/Graf
Feisol
FLM
Foba
Giottos
Graf
Hama (Pro Plate)
Kirk
Markins
Novoflex
PhotoClam
Pro Media Gear
RRS
Wimberley

Plates:

Safety catch

Pin
Lever pin
Lever
Lever pin
Lever
Pin
Pin
Pin

Acratech

Pin groove

works
works
too small
works
works
works (only in screw clamps, not in lever)
works

Arca Swiss

works
works
works
works
works
works

Benro/Induro

Pin groove

works
works (safety pin not effective)
works
Works (pin does not catch)
QR-1 works in Q-Mount

Induro PHQ1 might not work with Castel L

works

Burzynski

works
works
works
works
works
works mostly (one reports of a plate which is too small)
works
works
works

Feisol

Ping groove

works
works (safety pin not effective)
works
works in Castel-Q

FLM

locking groove for FLM/Graf

FLM plates work in Graf clamp. Safety catch works, but plate is off center.

works
plate too narrow
plate too narrow
plate too narrow
works in Q-Mount, not Q-base
plate too narrow

Foba

works
works

Giottos

Works sliding in
works

Not in Castel-Q

works

Graf

locking groove for FLM/Graf

Too narrow
works

plate too narrow

works

Kirk


Stopper screws

works
works
works (after removal of safety pin for some heads, some can keep it)
works (safety pin not effective)

plate too high
works sliding in, but not in all Giotto clamps (sample variance)

works
works
works

L-Bracket not in older Castel-Q

Q-Mount, Q-Base work

works
works

Markins

Pin groove

works after removal of safety pin
works
too small
works
works
works
works


works also in Q-Base and Castel-Q
works

Some plates slip through
(too narrow / thin)

Novoflex

works

mostly works after removal of safety pin

Qplate might not work in B00

Induro PHQ1 does not work with Castel L

works
works
works sliding in
works
works
works
works
works

works mostly (screw only) QPL3 does not fit in B2pro

works

PhotoClam

too thick
works (including L)
works

Pro Media Gear

works (L)
works
works
works

RRS

Stopper screw

works
works
plate too high
works

works after removal of safety pin
works
works
works

Works, Not in older Castel-Q

works
works

Wimberley

Stopper screws

works
works
works sliding in
works
works
works
works
works

The measures below can be used as an indication whether a plate might fit into a clamp.
What is not shown there is the height of the lower edge and the angle (usually 45°.

The measures have been taken by helpful readers. Although provided at one decimal place after the point,
they might not be as accurate as this indicates, not everybody is a guru with a sliding ruler
(the measures I received on one and the same clamp vary by 0.5mm) and the clamps are not easy to measure accurately when open.

Still it should give you good indication.

Vendor
Web site
Plate Styles
Plate Width
lower / upper edge height
(mm)

Clamp opening
top
bottom
height (mm)

Comments

Acratech
http://acratech.net/
CC, P, PR, GAT
The stopper pin of the plates might be annoying in non Acratech plates that have a hollow bottom.

Arca Swiss
http://www.arca-shop.de
P
33.4 – 37.6 / 34.1 – 38.6
39.2 – 43.4 / 39.5 – 44.0
4.5
The classic. Clamp measures are from the 60mm and 84mm versions. Measurement shows sample variation

Benro/
http://www.photopal.co.uk/
P
38.0 / 32.8
5.0
33.9 – 35.8
39.1 – 41.8
4.5
Stopper pin in clamp might need to be removed for other plates to work.
I do have reports about Benro L plates not working with the DJ90.

Burzynski
No Internet contact, address:
Rainer Burzynski
Naturfotografie Spezial-Zubehör
Am Hufeisenstich 1
D-16792 Zehdenick
Telefon: +49-330 80/4 05 70
Telefax: +49-330 80/4 07 70
L, P, LRF, LCR
39.5 / 32.6
30.4 – 34.5
37.4 – 41.5
N/A
Custom mounting systems (he will custom produce lens support systems etc...). Request the catalog by phone or fax. Some products are also available via Isarphoto: http://www.isarfoto.com/

Delkin Devices
http://delkin.com/
PR
33.6 – 38.6
37.2 – 43.2
N/A
The company offers various vehicle mounts

Feisol
http://www.feisol.com/
PR
38.1 / N/A
5.0
N/A- – 34.4
N/A- – 41.0
4

FLM
http://www.flm-gmbh.de/
P
38.8 / 28.0
4.9
31.5 – 34.0
37.0 – 41.0
4.3
The plates are about 1mm too narrow/thin for most other clamps apart from Graf/Novoflex. If you must absolutely put an FLM plate in one of the other clamps. putting an old credit card underneath it helps. (Ok, I would not trust it with a 600/4, but for small stuff...) Thanks Olli for that tip, I tried it, works nicely.

Foba
http://www.sinarbron.com/
P
38.7 / 32.3
5
MF:
38.75 / 32.3
5.15
N/A – 33.2
N/A – 38
3.85

Giottos
http://www.giottos.com/
PR, GAT
39.0 / 34.2
4.9
34.6 – 36.6 / 36.8 (sample variance)
39.3 – 41.4
3.9
Saftey pin on clamp needs to be removed for many plates from other vendors

Gitzo
http://www.gitzo.com/
P
Gitzo also offers a clamp which is Arca compatible, the G1387 series 2. Their type C plates might be Arca compatible, but the catalog really does not say.

Graf
No Website
30.7 – 35.0
N/A
4.5
Modified Graf clamps are available via Burzynski/Isarphoto

Hama
http://www.hama.co.uk/
As far as I know only a clamp is available

Kirk
http://www.kirkphoto.com/
CL, CC, C, GAT, LRF, LCR
38.1 / 32.8
5.2
33.7 – 39.6
39.0 – 45.2
4.3
The stopper screws at the end of the plates might need to be removed to fit into some clamps, especially when sliding in sideways

Markins
http://www.markins.com/
C, CC, CAT, GAT
38.1 / 33.5
36.9 / 32.2
33.5 – 39.2
N/A
3.9
The stopper pin of the plates might be annoying in non Markins plates that have a hollow bottom. Markins seems to have two different widths...

Novoflex
http://www.novoflex.com/
P, L, GAT
Q-M: 31,72 – 37,72
I had conflicting reports on the Castel-Q macro system. For some it takes RRS plates, for some it does not, especially the L brackets seem to be problematic. Q-Mount and Q-base seem to be more compatible.
The latest info I received seems to indicate that Novoflex modified Castel-Q some time in 2012 for better comptibility.

PhotoClam
http://www.PhotoClam.com
P,PR

Pro Media Gear
ProMediaGear.com
CL,CC, p
Knob clamps

RRS
http://reallyrightstuff.com/
CL, CC, C, GAT, LRF, LCR
38.0 / 32.8
5.0
33.53 – 38-94
The stopper screw at the end of the plates might need to be removed to fit into some clamps, especially when sliding in sideways

Triopo
No web site as far as I could see, only resellers
Might be a low cost alternative, but I don't have much data on them yet.

Velbon
http://www.velbon.co.uk/
I have had reports of specific Velbon plates (QB-F51) and heads (QB-F51) being compatible with specific Arca style plates, but in general Velbon is not into Arca plates...

Wimberley
http://www.tripodhead.com/
GAT, CAT, LRF
33.2 – 39.2
N/A
4.5
The stopper screws at the end of the plates might need to be removed to fit into some clamps, especially when sliding in sideways

Plate Style Reference

Key

Explanation

P
Plain plate, metal top. Will twist when used sideways. But can be custom machined to fit for the mechanically gifted. FLM, Burzynski, Novoflex, ...

PR
Plain plates with rubber or cork top. Wobbly connections, prone to twist.

L
Generic L bracket for cameras. Makes it easy to mount the camera in portrait mode (Burzynski, Novoflex) They tend to block access to the connectors on the left side of DSLRs.

CL
Camera specific custom L plates (only Kirk and RRS) that allow access to connectors even when L plate is attached.

CC
Custom camera plates that fit specific bodies and do not twist.

C
Custom lens plates that fit specific lenses and do not twist

GAT
Generic anti twist plates that fit various lenses and do not twist.

CAT
Generic anti twist plates that fit various cameras and do not twist.

LRF
Lens replacement foot. Replaces standard collar feet on some lenses for lower center of gravity and better stability

LCR
Lens collar replacement. Replacement collars for lenses (or collars for lenses shipped without any)


A few more tidbits:

Cullman seems to manufacture plates that can be squeezed in some of the wider clamps.

Although Manfrotto (sold by Bogen in the US) offers at least three incompatible plate systems, none of them is Arca compatible.

Photos of many plates and clamps can be seen at http://stativfreak.de.
The site is in German, use http://www.stativfreak.de/Wechselsystem.htm to get to the links of the plates/clamps.

I've had reports about plates from Kiwifotos.com being a bit too thin to work (specifically the LP-86 in Kirk heads).

Thanks for providing all the measures and feedback![/quote]

SUPER Liste!
Vielen Dank für die Info!!!

Danke für den Link! Eine sehr schöne Liste. Schade, dass Sirui noch fehlt. An den wenigen Fremd (nicht-Sirui)köpfen, an denen ich meine Sirui-Platten bisher benutzt habe, gab es keine Probleme.

In diesem Zusammenhang ist auch der folgende Thread interessant, in dem ein neuer Standard namens UniQ/C vorgestellt wird, der das Kompatibilitätswirrwarr lösen soll und - so hat es zumindest den Anschein - in einigen Punkten vom Arca-Swiss-Standard abgeleitet worden ist:

http://www.mi-fo.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=34885

Viele Grüße,

Matthias